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Build Guide

Modest Gaming Build

by manirelli



With the current mining craze, prices of GPUs are high and availability is low. However, with patience and vigilance, you can find a fairly reasonable price. With this in mind, this guide uses one of the new AMD Raven Ridge APUs, which will allow you to play many games while waiting and searching for a GPU at an acceptable price.


Our Modest Gaming Build is built around the Ryzen 5 2400G. Using the stock cooler you should be able to achieve moderate overclocks on this unlocked processor.


We've paired the R5 2400G with a parametric list of mATX B350 motherboards that supports up to 64GB of DDR4 memory, multiple SATA6 devices, and front panel USB3.0. Please note that the new Raven Ridge APUs may require a BIOS update on your motherboard to function. If you receive a motherboard with an older BIOS revision AMD has a support page listing your options and will loan you a CPU if the retailer and manufacturer fail to provide you with an updated motherboard.



For this build and most machines outside of the top end enthusiast realm we opted to go with 8GB of DDR4 memory. The parametric filter finds the best price on 8GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications. We've limited it to DDR4-2800 and DDR4-3000 as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory. At the current time, using memory rated over 3000mhz is not advised without doing extra research as DIMM support can be hit or miss. AMD is working on releasing additional BIOS updates to add better compatibility for higher frequency memory.


With the rising cost of SSDs and memory we’re making a new recommendation for storage that is a compromise between real-world performance and cost. The parametric filter selects the best priced Hybrid drive with 2TB or more storage capacity. While the hybrid drives are slower on paper than SSDs, their practical performance for gamers will be similar while allowing significantly more storage space per dollar.


At this price point we suggest using the Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB edition. We specifically filter for the 6GB model as the 3GB not only has lower VRAM but also a lower core count leading to lower fps while gaming. The performance across most games will be similar to the AMD RX 570. We've created a parametric filter to show you the lowest priced, full sized GTX 1060 6GB under 350 dollars which will be powerful enough for most AAA games at 1080p.

Due to the high cost of GPUs and low availability, we are using a parametric filter for a GeForce GTX 1060 with a max price set. With patience and vigilance, you can find a video card for around this price, and we want to provide a part list that is more accurate to this concept.


All of the components are housed in the Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX mid Tower. This case is an affordable option that has a large side panel window, front panel USB3.0, room for full size graphics cards, two LED case fans, and cutouts in the motherboard tray for easy cable routing.


For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of well-reviewed fully and semi-modular units, all of which will provide more than enough power for this system.

Part List Customize This Part List

Warning: These parts have potential issues/incompatibilities. (See details.)

Estimated Wattage: 267W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU €149.90 €8.92 €158.82 Alternate Buy
From parametric filter
  • Form Factor: Micro ATX
  • Chipset: AMD B350
  • RAM Slots: 4 - 16
  • Onboard Video: Depends on CPU
  • Onboard USB3.0 Headers: Yes
€73.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €73.99 Amazon Espana Buy
From parametric filter
  • Speed: DDR4-2933, DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200, DDR4-3300, DDR4-3333
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 8GB (2x4GB)
€98.47 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €98.47 Amazon Espana Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 2TB - 12TB
  • Type: Hybrid
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
€180.37 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €180.37 Amazon Espana Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Price: €0.00 - €350.00
  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
  • Length: 223mm - 403mm
€328.21 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €328.21 Amazon Espana Buy
Case €66.06 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €66.06 Amazon Espana Buy
Power Supply €128.14 €128.14 Amazon Espana Buy
Base Total: €1025.14
Shipping: €8.92
Total: €1034.06
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Potential Issues / Incompatibilities

  • Some AMD B350 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Raven Ridge CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

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wazagaduu 14 points 20 days ago

No Matches Available From parametric filter Price: $0.00 - $350.00 Chipset: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Length: 223mm - 403mm


animatingblue 11 points 5 days ago

I agree. That's just sad.


Go mine diamond instead.

AaroshGaming 6 points 5 days ago

to be fair, it's not only the mining that's the problem. Ram prices are unfair cause phone companies take it all. And since video cards use the same stuff, well, you can guess.

animatingblue 5 points 5 days ago

I realize that, but it's just weird because the MSRP was literally $250 for the 6GB version and $200 for the 3GB version. The MSRP for a GTX 1060 is to close to for comfort the price point where you can get a GTX 1050Ti.

But what you say is true, though. I agree. But those Ethreum miners, ugh.

Yognaught_Ace 2 Builds 1 point 18 days ago

its not fancy or anything but last time I checked you can buy FE GPU's off nvidias website

Flika1999 6 points 17 days ago

If your very very very lucky, yes. I've been on auto notify for 2 months. Got an in-stock allert about a month ago, the email was 4 hours old. I immediately checked if there were any left, but no such luck.

Yognaught_Ace 2 Builds 2 points 17 days ago

didnt even think about how fast they would go, now I fell stupid lol but you never know you might get lucky, so good luck.

Flika1999 2 points 17 days ago

Thanks, I plan to keep trying,.

naephan 1 point 8 days ago

Your cell phonee carrier usually has some form of email wheres its nuber@carrier.com or whatever. See if you have one and it'll forward it to a text.

Branaldo 1 point 16 days ago

The same thing happened to me twice. But it wouldn't have mattered because i noticed the price they sold for was the 2x price as opposed to the price shown on the webpage at the time of setting up my notification. They keep that price low it seems until its available for sale and then jack it up. I wouldn't have paid that much anyway so i just bought a 1050ti. Haven't built the system yet but we'll see how much i can get out of it.

Adime 1 point 10 days ago

there's one for $350... +4... D:

dmt666 0 points 16 days ago

If you increase the max price to 370, you will often see deals on 6GB 1060's pop up every few days or so. I just got one yesterday for 355.

Dr.Swag 8 points 19 days ago

Not sure I understand the SSHD, I personally would much rather choose a 120gb SSD+HDD

mejiacristian1337 1 point 16 days ago

An SSHD is a hard disk with some SSD cache to speed up load times. It's not as fast as an SSD being a couple of seconds slower but still much faster than a regular hard disk. They are great for budget builds though as they are almost as fast as an SSD and has the same low price of large HDDs.

dmt666 2 points 16 days ago

100 bucks can get you a solid SSD. It's still a budget build but everything will move faster. I highly recommend getting a SSD over anything. If you really need more space, you can pick up a super cheap HD anywhere for almost nothing if you spend a little time looking for deals. You really shouldn't need more than 120 GB for basic use/a couple games. Normal HD's are ridiculously cheap. I would never pay 100 bucks for a measly 2 TB HD...my friend picked up a 3TB for 60 the other day...

Axe2004 1 point 3 days ago

ssd is SOLID state drive, so every ssd is preety solid

dmt666 1 point 3 days ago

i prefer uuglly solid

Dr.Swag 2 points 12 days ago

Not really. You're putting like what, 4-8GB of SSD cache with an HDD? Caches don't work perfectly: Sure, maybe boot up will be pretty quick and launching a few common apps will be pretty quick but open a game? HDD speed. Open an app you don't necessarily always open? HDD speed. Try doing writes to the SSHD? They aren't gonna be so fast, since you're looking at only a few gigs of flash (very little parallelism and usually the flash and controller used aren't that good anyways).

What you're much better off doing is getting a 120gb ssd+HDD. Store OS and commonly apps (as well as maybe a game) on the SSD, and most of your games and stuff on the HDD. You get the fast boot times and app launch times the SSHD gives you, albeit wayyy faster.

spartanvi 1 Build 1 point 1 hour ago

Agreed. I'd rather have a 120GB SSD with a 500GB-1TB HDD. Should roll out to $100 give or take based upon the HDD selection. Ex: PNY CS900 120GB + WD Caviar Blue 500GB = $80 USD. I realize it's much much smaller than the 2TB SSHD, but I value load speeds over capacity, and combined storage should be enough to store 5-10 current titles with 1-2 of your favorite games on the SSD.

sapphirethunder 4 points 17 days ago

Choosing the 2400G and choosing a discrete GPU here kind of defeats the purpose. The cpu might as well be Ryzen 5 1400 which often is slightly cheaper.

Mtthwmths 2 Builds 5 points 17 days ago

It's so you can use the computer (have video output) while looking for a good price on the gpu. 1400 has no integrated video. It's a bit wasteful, but a first time builder who is a student or works from home probably can't wait on gpu availability to have a functioning PC. If you can wait though, the 1600 is a good value for performance.

sapphirethunder -2 points 14 days ago

Well, the point in these builds usually is to get everything at once. If it's made so that you wait for the gpu, it might as well simply not have the gpu listed and the buyer will later get one which they deem fitting. It's no use adding cost of a gpu you might not get as it won't be part of the whole pc budget anymore at that point. Instead it will have it's own budget.

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sapphirethunder 1 point 10 days ago

Must have missed that part when reading the description. Yeah, that makes sense indeed to go with Raven Ridge.

dmt666 -4 points 15 days ago

This is a gaming build though, I don't imagine it's for people who have an urgent need for a computer to do their work on. I would rear away from the APU because 1060 deals pop up pretty consistently for around 350 give or take 5-10 bucks.

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SomeDuder -1 points 12 days ago

But since it's meant for gaming, why not just wait till you get an affordable GPU and then get the rest?

I mean, yes, this is all conjecture and theorycrafting, so who the hell cares, but buying all your hardware NOW while waiting, what, 6 months for a GPU? Meanwhile, your hardware will have been deprecated in value for 6 months, and you could probably have picked it all up a bit cheaper when you get your GPU.

Bad move. Can't recommend that anyone actually do this.

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Lvk3 2 points 14 days ago

The Ryzen 5 2400G actually has a higher clock speed than the Ryzen 5 1500X, and can probably overclock farther due to its improved manufacturing process. That makes up for the price difference even without using the integrated GPU.

TxSnipper 1 Build 1 point 13 days ago

even the Ryzen 5 1500x would be better

Radio_Memories 6 Builds 2 points 12 days ago

I can understand with the high DDR4 RAM prices, you'll need to limit the amount of memory to 8 GB, otherwise you'll be spending up to $200. The question is with this Ryzen 5 2400G CPU, if you have the graphics memory set to 2 GB plus the O/S using 1 GB or more, you'll only be left with a max. of 5 GB's to run games and programs. Is that enough RAM to run smoothly?

Napole0n_5 2 points 2 days ago

Generally with this CPU yes. You won't be running most games on max/ultra resolution anyways as that would require more graphics power. At the quality settings games will run at on the 2400G and 2200G, 8GBs of ram with 2GBs allocated to the graphics chip is more than enough. The faster the RAM the better tough, keep that in mind. Even a 2666 MHz kit overclocked to 2993 MHz should be fine. Another thing to keep in mind, Ryzen will benefit from dual or quad channel memory, stay away from running a single 8GB stick or you will really hinder performance.

llamafacelukas 1 Build 1 point 20 days ago

If people are willing to wait, a company called B & H Photo in NY has computer parts, like that graphics card. It can be found for that price range but, like you said, you have to stay on top of it and be willing to wait to find those deals anymore.

Crazycatman 3 Builds 2 points 19 days ago

Same place I used for all my parts in April 2017. Good prices! and they accept PayPal too!

naephan 1 point 8 days ago

Horrible company. They have multiple reports on them with discrimination in the workplace, their customer service is god awful, the price gouge often, and when you can get ahold of a representative there is such a high amount of background noises (mostly Indian speak)

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Charbles 1 point 19 days ago


TheRealPerson 1 point 19 days ago

I am new to computer and I am really confused about the Potential Issues. Can someone put that in like non computer terms?

ApeecI 2 points 19 days ago

it means you might have to use a different cpu (central processing unit) to upgrade something called the BIOS so it will be able to run the cpu you want Please do correct me if im wrong :D

TheRealPerson 1 point 18 days ago

Thank you! I was very confused

Lvk3 1 point 14 days ago

AMD offers an "upgrade kit" upon request that consists of a cheap CPU and cooler that you can use to flash the BIOS. You need to send the CPU back, of course.

ApeecI 1 point 10 days ago

No Problem :D

Napole0n_5 1 point 2 days ago

Most motherboards bought new now ship with the latest BIOS, or at least one that supports Raven Ridge APU. Don't be afraid to contact the reseller and ask if its Raven Ridge ready!

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LonghornAlamo2040 1 point 18 days ago

I'd swap the storage drive and PSU to something I prefer. Other than that, I approve!

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LonghornAlamo2040 1 point 12 days ago

I don't expect it to perform at that speed. I just expect it to function. Also remember they're using a parametric filter.

Jeff-is-dead 1 point 17 days ago

Anyone know some cpu, with the same performance as the Ryzen 5 that will work with the motherboard

Lvk3 1 point 14 days ago

The Ryzen 5 1500X is very close, but its clock speed is a bit lower.

PloniAlmoni 1 point 9 days ago

The Ryzen 1400 and especially the 1500X have more L3 cache than the 2400G, but that won't matter much for gaming. (It may help with some creative professional tasks, specifically with something like Digitial Audio Workstations.)

TheRealPerson 1 point 17 days ago

Was 1060 brand should we get

Wolfie2554 1 point 16 days ago

Whichever one fits your budget and from whatever company you like.

KingWoz 1 point 16 days ago

Sorry, I'm new to this, can you use a separate graphics card with a built-in one with no problems?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 16 days ago


Wolfie2554 1 point 16 days ago

Yes, the integrated GPU will be disabled and the separate graphics card will take over.

Mackdadday99 1 point 15 days ago

Does the vega 11 graphics support h264... That APU could be a really good option for Streamers if the GPU inside has H264 encoding... If you can't figure this out, maybe I will buy one and see what it can do.

PloniAlmoni 1 point 9 days ago

I'm fairly certain it does, I hear people use it for encoding even when they have a discrete card, much as people do that with Intel QuickSync.

Joel.Benedicto 1 point 14 days ago

How Consistently are people running into the Gigabyte BIOS APU compatibility problems? I really don't want to order all these parts just to flash the motherboard with another AM4 cpu. Would The Asus Strix edition b350 chipset be a more reliable option? I've also read reviews that the Gigabyte Motherboard is really touchy with Overclocking?

pc+beginner 1 point 14 days ago

The price for the ram you picked requires Newegg Premier. ~ :(

liquid3100 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

Great build. I’m very pleased with my 2400G as well. Glad to see others who find the APU to be a nice fit while holding out for a GPU at a decent price.

RagedNick 1 point 13 days ago

Its sad that people now cant bui their dream 500$ sistems. I remember when you could easily get a rx 470 for 160$ msrp, a Intel Core i3 6100 etc ... (I didn`t forget the ram prices) :(

ryanmassey1337 1 point 11 days ago
  1. The Ryzen 5 2400G already has a GPU capable of light gaming, so if you didn't need integrated geaphics, Why didn't you just use something like the 1500x?

  2. The GTX 1060 3GB is plenty at 1080p... Yes, it has lower VRAM and lower core count but the real world difference between the 6GB model and the 3GB model is 5-10% IF THAT. Basically, if the 6GB was getting 60 FPS, the 3GB would get 57..... Not even noticeable. The only game that uses more than 3GB of vram at 1080p is pubg but Tech Deals reviewed it and showed gameplay and it didn't stutter once...

  3. You shouldn't buy ANY graphics cards right now because of pricing. But if you do, the price difference between the 1060 3GB and 6GB is over $100 for MAYBE 3-5 FPS

mac568 1 point 9 days ago

I have read earlier in the thread, but just to clarify; The motherboard listed in the build is not compatible with the new Ryzen 5 2400G CPU and will need a BIOs update?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 9 days ago

It might not be compatible out of the box. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing how new or updated the stock is at the various retailers.

JrEspresso 1 point 9 days ago

Hey man maybe update your parts list, take out the GPU and mine is 8 dollars more https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GhMXHh

Greech 1 point 7 days ago

My son plays games like Minecraft and Roblox and uses Quicktime to capture the screen coupled with a condenser mic to capture his voice. Ultimately he uploads these videos to youtube.

Will he be able to get away with this build and have optimal performance considering his main use case? Right now he's on a really old mac and it's really choppy and the rig is about to explode pretty much.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 7 days ago

Absolutely. This machine will easily be up to the task.

Greech 2 points 6 days ago

thanks, big fan of your work, I built one of your other PCs 2 years ago and it's still killing it!!

DaMysteryMan 1 Build 2 points 5 days ago

This build would even be overkill for roblox or minecraft. A pentium would handle that just fine for even less, or a 2200G. As long as he is not doing both at once. If he streams I would just get a 2200G with no GPU.

agooglygooglr 1 point 7 days ago
manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

This is an 800-900 dollar build.

TheRealPerson 1 point 6 days ago

Would a GTX 1060 6GB from GIGABYTE work with this build?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 6 days ago


nightstarnebula 1 point 6 days ago

Amazon had Gigabyte GT 1030 for about $79 dollars. That would compliment the modest gaming build. Also NewEgg is offering $20 mail in rebate on Ryzen 5 1600. I feel Ryzen 5 1600 is better than 2400G if you are getting your own graphics card.

A tip, watch out for mail in rebates on PSUs. I got EVGA 750 Gold certified for about $89. It is always better to spend a little bit extra for PSUs as you have more options to upgrade when the graphics card prices drop (most likely to be in 2019)

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 8 hours ago

but the 1030 is barely better than the 2400G

nightstarnebula 1 point 7 hours ago

Yes but 2400g is not as powerful as 1600 when it comes to multitasking, streaming etc. If ones intention is gaming then one should get a more powerful graphics card than 1030 or APU 2400g.

TheRealPerson 1 point 5 days ago

Do you need a graphics card for this build or could you buy it later.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 5 days ago

Because we are using the new Ryzen APU you can use this build without a GPU and purchase one later.

TheRealPerson 1 point 5 days ago

Would it still be able to run some games or no?

parchmentpaper 1 point 4 days ago

Could I fit some kind of liquid cooling in this case, like the Corsair Hydro H50, and an M.2 drive. I'm a bit worried.

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 8 hours ago

Skip the Watercooler. It is not needed. I would get a good looking air cooler though.. something like a cryorig h7 quad lumi. and yes you can fit an m.2 drive on that motherboard.

ndog204 1 point 4 days ago

i built this but i but in a 1080 and 16gbs of ram but good list

James19 1 point 4 days ago

I'm looking to build a budget computer around this price and based off this build but I'm new to this kind of stuff and wasn't sure on some things.

1) I was wondering if the CPU's integrated graphics would run games like fortnite, league of legends, world of warcraft smoothly (good fps) at the lowest settings whilst I look for a decent priced graphics card.

2) I note the compatibility issue with the CPU and motherboard, I was wondering if there would be an alternative motherboard (don't mind paying extra) that suits the build but eliminates the problem as I'll be ordering to Australia so if shipped from overseas I don’t really want to wait for a replacement CPU to use my PC. Also, I’ll be looking to upgrade in the future so was wondering if there is a better motherboard that allows more upgrades down the track whilst eliminating the CPU issue.

3) Could I add an optical drive to this build or use a different case that fits the build and offers a drive slot and more room to make my first build a bit easier.

Any advice would be appreciated and as I said I'm trying to stick to my budget but I would probably be willing to go another $200aud. over the budget if it will make life much easy for now and the future.

casedogg512 1 point 3 days ago

1) It would probably run them at relatively good quality settings, but not 60 FPS @ 1080p at higher settings.

2) The issues is that any board released prior the 'Raven Ridge' series APUs "MAY NOT" already have their BIOS upgraded. Without a non-Raven Ridge processor to boot into BIOS with, you could POSSIBLY be out of luck until you could get an 'upgrade kit' from AMD (loaner CPU to use long enough to boot and update your BIOS)

3) Of course. You could use a USB optical drive, an internal, or any case you want, so long as it supports the MicroATX form factor of the motherboard.

James19 1 point 2 days ago

Is there a way to avoid the BIOS issue or order a board uptodate somehow ?

casedogg512 1 point 1 day ago

Some vendors may offer/confirm the BIOS will ship at a certain version, but ... there is still a chance it may not, unfortunately.

The only real ways to be 'safe' is to just have another non-Raven Ridge A4 CPU on-hand.

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 8 hours ago

Yeah.. The newer boards will ship with the latest BIOS version. But there are still a f*ckton of boards around with the "older" Bios version.

James19 1 point 6 hours ago

Is there a different motherboard,cpu that could fit right into this build without the compatibility issue with similar performance and pricing?

Avexus02 1 point 2 days ago

PSU is simply overpriced at $67.39 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B6XnTW/cooler-master-masterwatt-550w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-mpx-5501-amaab-us At the time of writing this PSU is generously priced at $33.98 with the same wattage, just no glorified "80+ Gold Certified" plastered on it. This is also a Tier 2 unit, so any concern about this PSU spontaneously combusting is nothing short of paranoia.

Also, the 1060 6 GB is a poor value in contrast to the 1060 3 GB at the moment.

jtackwell@gmail.com 1 point 2 days ago

Could I play overwatch on a 4k monitor and stream using twitch? I know that might be pretty demanding on a computer.

EZDEATH4U 1 point 2 days ago

I would guess no, a 1060 is made for 1080p at high frames or 1440p low-medium settings 45-60fps.

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 8 hours ago

No.. if you want to stream I would at least get a ryzen g 1600 and for the GPU a gtx 1080. The 1080 might be a bit expensive rn. But the 1060 6GB would handle overwatch on 1440p on decent settings at decent FPS

Nathan_Fitz 1 point 2 days ago

and with the monitor, operating system, and keyboard.... its 753.24. nice try. but if you already have those things.... good 4 u.

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 8 hours ago

PCPP never adds peripherals to their build guides.. they have said it like a 1000 times

gabman2303 1 point 2 days ago

would this set up allow me to play games such as siege, fornite, pubg adequately? Just curious, I am a newb and am lookin gto set up my first gaming pc.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 1 day ago


Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 8 hours ago

Yes! This will play all those games perfectly :D

Fr33Th1nk3r 4 Builds 1 point 5 hours ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor $199.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
CPU Cooler Cooler Master - Hyper T2 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $20.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard ASRock - A320M-DGS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $75.00 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $137.99 @ Memory Express
Storage Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $89.00 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Case Rosewill - FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $39.99 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Newegg Canada
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $622.46
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-23 08:57 EDT-0400
Zplaat1996 1 point 23 minutes ago

ehhhh you could easly cut 100 bucks out of the budget. spend a bit more time with pricing out the parts list.

TheReclaimerRx7 1 Build 0 points 7 days ago

Not the best build.

agooglygooglr -1 points 7 days ago


ylcard -3 points 19 days ago

If you're willing to wait for a video card, might as well wait for everything. Don't get an APU if you're planning on getting a video card. It's a little bit of a waste. The CPU isn't bad per se, but you might as well get a 1500X or even a 1400 if budget is really tight.

Do NOT get a WD Blue drive that's over 1TB, they're 5400 RPM and if you're going to be using them for anything other than archival purposes, you're going to have a bad time. You're better off investing your money into an M.2 slot and using up the 4 SATA connections for your HDDs. As it's touted as a gaming build, you don't need 4TB, get yourself 1 TB or 2TB (but NOT from the Blue series).

The 1060 6GB is an excellent choice, but you might consider an RX 580 (or even the 480) for FreeSync.

If the point of the case is its small size, then yeah, great choice, but I'd consider getting a bigger case for less money and more spacious interior.

Finally, the PSU is hell of an overkill for this system, you'll be perfectly fine with a 450W PSU, the Gold is nice, but you have to consider that your "savings" on electricity would be so minimal that it doesn't really matter, the lower upfront cost is, in my opinion, a much better option than to save 25€ a year (and that's if you're running your PC at full load 24/7).

winteriscomin 1 Build 7 points 18 days ago
  1. No. The 2400g isn't like the APUs of yore. You aren't losing almost any CPU performance compared to a 1400x or 1500. With GPU prices as insane as they are, the 2400g has compelling price to performance. Ryzen doesn't even have video built in to the normal CPUs, so OP would have to go out and pick up a GT 1030 or something like that. Completely pointless.

  2. These are 7200rpm drives, as stated by gush37 already.

  3. The RX 580 gets consistently much higher hash rates than gtx 1060s, so miners snap them up and they start at $500. Not a good suggestion in the current price climate.

  4. This is an excellent case and is great to work in. With SLI and Crossfire getting next to no support, there's not much reason for budget gamers to go with ATX boards anymore.

  5. A good PSU now saves you the headache of getting one later. Better to fork over for a 600w and never have to worry about your GPU / CPU overclocks than have to resell a 450w and get a new unit.

Mtthwmths 2 Builds 4 points 17 days ago

And why the hate on WD Blue drives? They come in 7200 RPM and are bestsellers for a reason. Good cheap performing drives.

Okno13 0 points 17 days ago

You just said hashrate. I love and absolutely despise you at the same time.

ylcard -1 points 16 days ago

2400G has incredible value, but as I'm typing this, Ryzen 5 1600 price has dropped to 163€ here, and the 2400G goes for 159€. I'm well aware of it's relative good performance as an APU, but for first-time buyers it's just better to wait than to buy something that isn't as powerful as it's similarly priced alternatives.

I replied to him, and AFAIK there are no 1TB+ WD Blue drives.

I'm not suggesting anyone would overpay for anything, I'm quite against it.. I'm saying the RX 580 is a good choice in its reasonable price (I got mine about 2-3 months ago for 270€), regardless of price, the 1060 6GB is a solid card (better than the RX 580) and costs less (as of now). But, again, this build is for "later", a time when prices are reasonable, so what's the point of saying that the RX 580 is too expensive right now?

Well, I take your word for it that it's a good case, but for me it's a bit too expensive, and you could still use an mATX board in a larger case, you'll just have more room - but the main point is the price.

If it's about how good the PSU is, then why is it a parametric filter? It's based on the specs, not on a review of it. Well, don't worry, 450 watts is more than you'll ever need with a 2400G and a GTX 1060. Even with OC. It's also not just about wattage, as it's not what drives the price up, it's the fact that it's Gold certified. It's nice to have, but for a "MODEST GAMING" build, you don't need one. The difference is 5% of efficiency. You're not losing anything, well - you do.. money, but your gains are insignificant as a "modest gamer".

gush37 1 point 18 days ago

There are actually WD blue drives that run 7200rpm.

ylcard 4 points 16 days ago

Can you link those drives? I'm only aware of 1 model that is a 7200 RPM, the WD Blue 1TB model (WD10EZEX), everything beyond 1TB and even the SSHD are 5400 RPM models.

gush37 2 points 15 days ago

Never mind, thought you were talking about any size. I have a 1TB Blue that runs 7200rpm, and thought they all did.

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 1 point 8 hours ago

nope.. above one TB is only 5400 RPM.. I didn't know that either and made the mistake and bought the 3TB blue one... Don't get me wrong.. it runs perfectly fine.. just a bit slow

TheConman565 -4 points 16 days ago

I'd suggest using either a R3 1200 + GPU or a 2400G, not both. Using a discrete GPU with an APU is a waste of money.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 6 points 16 days ago

Please read the preface on the guide.

Vclutch -6 points 20 days ago

I think that the psu is too expensive for the price of the case

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 4 points 19 days ago

nah.. this PSU is great! Seasonic make awesome PSUs.. that way you can use the PSU when you decide to upgrade. And why would you judge the pricd of the PSU by the price of the case?

Dr.Swag 2 points 19 days ago

I would personally go for a cheaper CX550M or just pay $6 more for this guy though


Crazycatman 3 Builds 1 point 19 days ago

If anything you can find some nice New EVGA 650w GQ's all Modular on eBay for around $60-70. and also Vclutch most PSU's in builds are more than the case anyways.... its a part to use the PC, the Case isn't required to use the PC, so your point of the opinion your making is pretty unintelligible.

Vclutch -1 points 18 days ago

A rule of thumb a friend told me, never spend more on a psu than a case, for best value

Lobsterareawesome 6 Builds 4 points 18 days ago

Well thats a bad rule of thumb in my honest opinion.

will1105 1 point 16 days ago

Considering that a faulty case is not a problem so much. a faulty power supply can blow everything it powers. AKA everything.

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manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 2 days ago

Please don't type in all caps. Additionally, read the description for reasoning on the APU.

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Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor 8W - 65W
ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard 15W - 60W
Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory 7W - 7W
Western Digital - Blue 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive 3W - 15W
EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card 30W - 120W
Total: 63W - 267W